Monday, August 16, 2010

Lunes Lunacy- Prop Hate

California had a proposition pass (prop 8) that would write into the California Constitution that marriage could only be between heterosexuals- people of the opposite sex could only marry.  They'd (the h8ers) would allow same sex couples to have a civil union- but not a marriage. A civil union, or domestic partnership affords the couple most but not all of "the same rights, protections, and benefits, and shall be subject to the same responsibilities, obligations, and duties under law..." as married spouses. This not all of includes some health care benefits, unemployment of the spouse, and confidentiality of the marriage.  The h8ers wish to keep prop 8 even though a proposition with the same wording was invalidated in 2000 as constitutionally unsound.

Why?  *H8ers think that by allowing gays to marry they will be redefining marriage to the whole country. * H8ers think that we will then start teaching in the classroom that gay marriage is OK. * H8ers think that if we allow gay marriage, then next we will allow marriage to a pet (wth?). *A lot of h8ers are reading bible scriptures as back up for their arguement.

I have news for those h8ers out there-
Dear H8ers,
* Marriage has been and will continue to be redefined. Remember when a woman was property and basically given to her husband with a dowry because her parents didn't want to support her sorry butt anymore?  Remember when blacks couldn't marry because they were property of the land owners through slavery?  Remember when interracial marriage was not legal?
*As for marriage in the classroom: First of all, we have no curriculum to speak of marriage within the classroom, but marriage, like religion, politics, and sex, all come up while speaking with students.  It's our job as teachers to remain neutral somewhat.  I've peppered some comments with my own world views- but solely with the "I believe, but you don't have to" type of attitude.
second of all, I've already broached the subject of gays- yep- I live in freaking California, some of my students might have two mommies or two daddies.  I hate when kids use the word gay as a derogatory term, and have discussed this often.  My talking about gays did not turn your kids gay, nor did it make them want to marry someone of the same sex just to do it.  Same thing as my discussing that I do not celebrate Christmas, and I celebrate Yule did not turn your kids into a pagan or witch.  Nor do they go about yelling "Happy Yule".- But they are more aware now that your narrow minded view of the world is not the only view.  OMG! Yes, we corrupted your children, maybe they'll even think for themselves. YOU can teach them at home what you think, but it will not prepare them for the real world if you limit their access to information. You can tell them that YOU think it's not OK, I don;t have to.  If You want a teacher to back YOU up, get your kids out of public school- send them to a church school, where the teachers will back up your h8 and you can pay them lots of money.
* How does loving someone enough to marry them delineate to marrying a pet?  You know gays are not all pedophiles or beastophiles, right?  You know they are nice normal people who have a friend, lover, mate that they wish to spend the rest of their lives with- much like you and your spouse.  We all love our pets, but we all know that it's not that kind of love.  duh.
*Keep your religious text out of the arguement. Seriously.  You don't want me to debate this with you.  I am excellent at debate.  OH?  you do? You keep throwing in the scripture about homosexuality being bad- okkkay.
First- we don't all subscribe to your religion (we being humans, and Californians).  We don't all believe your book is true.  Should I read parts of The Hobbit to you to back up my arguement? Same difference.  Or maybe I should read "The charge of the Goddess" (Wiccan tenets)- because people I know believe in that religious scripture, so it must be true like you are saying your bible is.
Second of all, remember  the clause "separation of church and state"?  remember how the church isn't in power anymore?  Remember how the americas were infiltrated by English people and grew into the America we have today because of unruly church power? 
Third and just for fun- do you even follow your bible?  all of it, I mean- You can't just pick and choose the scriptures you want to use in an arguement.

~God says that you can't eat shrimp-
Deuteronomy 14:9-10 says: 9 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:
10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.

~ God said you couldn't have premarital sex

~Have you ever protected your husband when others were bothering him?  You shouldn't have!  Now you lose a hand
""When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her." (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

~Did people visit you after giving birth?  Ack!  Now those people are unclean because of you!
"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)

"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)

~Have you killed me yet? What?  You have to! It's in the bible
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)

~Are you a Christian woman who speaks to her husband as if you actually have an opinion? uh oh-
Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

OK- I know, I am being surly.  I will shut up about the bible now.  For the record,  I don't hate Christians- I was one once, and a lot of my friends still are.  They find the religion fits them.  But let me also tell you- they are not those Christians who take everything literally, they can find the message they are supposed to have learned through the teachings of Jesus without condemning others and judging everyone.
Plus- it's my personal gripe day- so let me be surly.
i'm gonna try to linkytool this now!


Debra She Who Seeks said...

You go, girl! Tell it like it is!

AlphaBetsy said...

Here Here!!! Well said K!!!

Walk in the Woods said...

Have you seen this on YouTube:
It's great!

K(Banterings of a Basketcase) said...

I'll have to go check that youtube out~ thanks

Mara said...

I am so glad I live in a country where same-sex couples are allowed to get married. And guess what: they are just like ordinary people. They want love, they want companionship, they want security, they want marriage.

I always love it when people come and quote the bible, because, as you demonstrated really well, they will only pick the parts that fit them.

Furthermore: HEAR HEAR!!!